Ability To Lock Down Under 7's and 8's Results and Match Reports To Members Only
Due to FA Guidelines we need the ability to only allow our members to view the Match Reports and Results for Under 7 and Under 8 teams. Without this we cannot post results or write meaningful match reports.
We are working on the best way to integrate this functionality into our platform.
We received a mail from the Birmingham FA and in it they say ..
"In general terms you cannot display scores relating to U7 and U8 Football. However there has been a general relaxing of the rule to make it more commonsense. Therefore on the strict proviso that it is not public accessed we would not necessarily have an issue on match reports and indication of score. I think the manner in which the reports are written is the critical factor"
I sent a copy of that mail to email@example.com on 18/11/11 with the Birmingham FA contact details. This is why we want to be able post reports and results that are locked down to members only as the FA has said that we can do. We have 6 under 7 and under 8 teams in total and we (members of our site) all want to see how our teams have done.
AdminJon Milsom (CTO, Pitchero) commented
Thanks Mark, as you've highlighted that only seems to affect results (which you can ommit). Can anyone else supply information specifically related to Match Reports?
Hi - not an answer to Match Reports (can;t find one) BUT directly relevant for Results.
extract from: The Football Association Laws for Mini-Soccer. For Players (both boys and girls over the Age of 6 and under 10)(Updated by The FA Council on 15th May 2008)
Please note: Where Leagues operate Under 11 Mini-Soccer events, they must follow these Laws. Please remember: Under 7’s or Under 8’s are not permitted to play in leagues where results are collected or published or winner trophies are presented, this is deemed to be detrimental to the development of the player and the game and will not be sanctioned. To play in a KO Cup game or a game where points are awarded, or results collected, a player must have achieved the age of 8 on or before31st August. Except where other provision, in these Laws are made, the Laws of Association Football apply. Each Law is numbered to correspond with the appropriate Law of the Game. These Laws are mandatory unless special permission is granted by The Football Association
http://www.thefa.com/GetIntoFootball/Players/~/media/Files/PDF/Get into Football/4200MiniSoccerHandbook1.ashx/4200MiniSoccerHandbook1.pdf
We have issues every season with new "match report" authors overstepping the need for not inferring win, loose or draw in their match report and are asked by our County FA to step back in line.
So I can see why this topic has attracted so many votes.
As U8’s are allowed to play in U9 teams we have been asked by our county FA (from this season) to not record the results for this age group just in case (cup games are excluded from this request)
Pitch Hero commented
Can anyone provide a link to the FA guidelines that state that a match report can't be posted?
@Mark S - understand your request - the original request still stands though and is the one that has attracted 95 votes - we want the ability to post match reports and results for Under 7's and 8's but to block non-members from viewing them.
@Colin H - i think you might have missed the whole point of the request - the point is that anyone can read the match reports - ie you don't have to be signed in. In terms of learning bad habits etc - these are just match reports of what happened in a game that the members of our club like to read and find out how our teams got on.
Martyn Sexton commented
U7 / U8 aren't allowed show results but it goes on all over the place. No one to police it.
Our U7s and U8s actively post match reports - links to these appear on the home page and on the clubs RSS feed.
They are missing from the activity feed (may now be fixed as last post was 4th Feb.)
They are also missing from the results tab on the home page (fixtures, results, tables) but I guess this is expected as they do not post results as not allowed to.
Ideally we need a WCP option that blocks the resulst from certain teams and fixtures as we are only allowed to record results from U9 cup matches (as U8s can play up a year in league matches)
Pitch Hero commented
I've just checked our code for this area, and it looks like results are not a prerequisite for a match report to be entered. (Excluding activity feeds... but I've just relaxed this rule).
Does this tally with your experience? Can you point out a place on the site that this isn't the case.
What we need and has been asked for before is a way of promoting the MATCH REPORT without having to record a results
As before we need a switch to turn off the results and tables areas of the website for specific teams (currently this option is with sections)
Colin Holce commented
The children themselves cannot even read the reports unless they use someone else's email (parent/carer?) address so this is not really an issue. However although this is meant to be fun at this age they are at risk of learning bad habits regarding game play and behaviour.
FA guidelines: Results cannot be record or hinted at via match reports for games containing players who are U8 and below at the start of the season.
Recent advice from our county FA is this also preculdes reporting on U9 matches as U8's can be playing up a year (you may not have any U8's playing up but do the opposition). County and League Cup matches can have results reported if U8's are not allowed to play for U9 teams in the fixtures as per our County and League rules.
Match Reports must remain open IMHO - Statistcs can be collected but should be set to private (as for all U18 teams)
What I would like to see is a Webmaster switch to disable results and tables for specific teams - basically an extension of the current topic on/off check boxes for sections, as we have U10s in minis along with U9s, U8s and U7s.
I am also not sure where the FA wil go with the grassroots review, some of our local leagues are even now planning on not recording goals just win, loose or draw at speific age groups next season
jason dyche commented
George and Jay my twin boys look forward to viewing the reports and scores , this also helps with there reading skills.
Football is a team game its not about individuals,for a parent its great to see improvement's also like to add the Colron website is a huge improvement on the previous network.
Tracey Dugmore commented
Well how ridiculous has the whole world gone mad
There 7 and 8
It's not exactley
Sara Jones commented
You should be able to post match reports and results it is great fun for the kids and supporters
samantha ford commented
Its ridiculous some parents cant make the games and love reading up on whats happened in the match
David Cutler commented
You should be able to post results - my son loves reading the match reports - looking at the stats Etc. Children need to learn about both winning and losing. The main thing is thaey must enjoy it and learn.
Without the post - the team building experinece will no longer be apparant and in an open forum.